Automotive vs. Access Control : Locksmith


You would think that with all the programming and board soldering needed for automotive, that they would just go to access control. This is not to say a locksmith that does automotive cannot also be badass at all the things I was clowning on automotive locksmiths about, they can in fact be very skilled. However, there seems to be a trend where young wannabe cowboy locksmiths who frankly are shitty at even the basics of locksmithing, greedily want to make a quick buck and somehow think that jumping into automotive locksmithing is the answer. There is an alarming amount of people trying to somehow get into the auto game that fall into this.

I have yet to see locksmiths fucking up REAL access control jobs, you see the shit occasionally where a locksmith fucks up a dispensary or gets in over their head with an account that has already existing access control beyond a DL2700 but in my experience it is much more likely for a low voltage guy to completely fuck up doors installing maglocks. There are cases where a shitty locksmith who sucks at even the basics will fucking put in the shittiest electric strike ever. This contrasts heavily with non-skilled auto cowboys trying to work on car computers and fucking up the car as opposed to a locksmith that takes on a full blown access control job from top to bottom. It could be because the cost of the programmer is less and maybe they feel more comfortable with keys but access control also uses key fobs as well.

Realistically if you think about it, being an automotive locksmith is working on access control for cars. I just don’t understand why someone would want to pay shitloads of money for programming equipment, year after year when they can just make shitloads of money selling large amounts of extremely expensive parts and expensive specialized labor.

Automotive guys also need to know electrical but they have to know how cars work where as a good access control guy needs to know pretty much everything about doors, door hardware, and electrical. To me it just seems strange that there are not more car stereo, auto locksmith, alarm, whatever else overlapping. It is as if there are different branches to locksmithing and somehow you end up being a car mechanic on one side where as if you do access control, you end up being a skilled door mechanic.



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A question of access that needs to be user friendly… : Locksmith


This bathroom has two doors. One for the guys/customers to access from inside the shop. And the other for the guys/customers to access from the outside yard.

What exists(or can be made) to make this arrangement work that allows for:

  1. Life Safety

  2. Privacy when occupied

  3. Simplicity for the end user (customers and their kids cannot be trained)

  4. Access from both spaces.

Thank you all in advance for your time and responses. (I agree that this setup is “insert negative adjective here.”)

This is a single user restroom.

Edited to include information I was missing.



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Help getting into access control : Locksmith


I’ve been a locksmith for a few years doing simple commercial/residential/lockout work but am trying to get into access control. Let’s say I want to install a fob system for a commercial building with 75-100 suites that all need electronic access control via fob. Where do I find comprehensive instructions for which brand to choose based on my needs and how to install the system?



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Cannot access the other side and apparently the locking mechanism is broken inside and the handle doesn’t turn all the way. I tried putting a small screwdriver into the pinhole to try to get the door knob off and can’t get anything to release. Please help. : Locksmith


That’s definitely for a detent, not a set screw. This is probably a Defiant or some other cheapo knob.

OP: The detent probably isn’t in line with that little hole so to be able to press it you will likely have to rotate the knob CW or CCW in order to be able to push it in.



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I might be stupid but who knows? There were no exterior screws that I could find the key didn’t allow access to any hidden holes or special tricks, if anyone knows how this was suppose to be properly removed I would love to know. : Locksmith


It’s a Lori Lock. When on a door, remove the 2 screws on the bolt plate (edge of the door) and the plate can be removed with the rest of the bolt staying in the door. To the sides of the bolt are 2 narrow holes, which reach all the way back to the 2 set screws visible in your third image. Loosen those with an Allen key and Bob’s your auntie.



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Wireless Wiegand Bridge for Access Control? : Locksmith


Sorry for another access control related post. Any of you access guys happen to have a scenario where a customer wants a card reader in a spot where you can’t possibly run wire to it? I have a customer that wants to install a card reader at a receptionists desk, thats on an island in the middle of an entryway. It won’t release anything, literally only using it for the audit trail in case of an emergency or some sort of potential Covid tracing. I have power available at the desk. I’ve done some digging and came across a Sure-Fi Wiegand Bridge that sounds perfect for this situation. Does anyone have any experience with anything like this?



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What is that knob in my SentrySafe blocking the door pocket? There’s an access hole at 11 o’clock. : Locksmith


I have searched far and wide and can’t find any info. My guess is that one pokes a wire through the hole and presses on some plate, which would probably then allow the the knob to turn clockwise it looks like … and then what happens? I’m not adventurous enough to find out.



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Mortise cylinder smart lock OR simple WiFi access control for e strike. : Locksmith


I have a customer wanting to control access to his laundromat after hours, as well as set an open and locked time frame. He has an aluminum storefront with Adams rite. Ideally a mortise cylinder smart lock and paddle exit would be great, otherwise a WiFi controller for an e strike or electrified Adams rite would work.

I don’t do much access control work, any advice would be appreciated. Want to avoid maglock.



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