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Note: I am not a locksmith and don’t even pretend to be one, but I’m fascinated by the mechanical aspects of lock mechanisms. I’ve learned how to pick some simple locks reliably, and now I want to learn how to make keys.
Many moons ago I had a friend who was a retired locksmith, he made a spare key for my car for me by eyeballing my old key and using a hand clipper to make the new key, that blew my mind pretty thoroughly. I’ve looked for one of those key clippers, but they’re rare and expensive, or at least more than I can afford, so I got a Lishi clipper to play with. The main elements of making a good key seem to be making sure that the distance from the shoulder to each notch is accurate, and the depth of each notch is appropriate for the pin at that location. The Lishi has markings for depth but not location, so I want to practice using it to make keys to see if I can develop that as a usable skill.
That brings me to my question here, namely, where’s a good place to get blanks in bulk to practice with? I see that I can get 50 Kwikset blanks for less than $20 shipped off of the ‘bay, is that about as good as it gets? Would it make sense to approach my local locksmiths to get cheap blanks? Ideally they’d be Kwikset just so that I can test my practice keys in an actual lock, and I have plenty of Kwikset lock cylinders laying around to use for that purpose.
I have made a key before, for my motorcycle. I picked the helmet lock and disassembled it, measured the wafers and wafer spacing, then hand-filed a key that worked moderately well. It took me all day to file that key, and it was complicated by the fact that Kawasaki uses both tip and shoulder stopping because the gas lid only uses the end 5 notches on the key.
I’d appreciate any advice!
I purchased a new home today with a Schlage electronic deadbolt on the front door (something like the Camelot Trim Keypad Deadbolt) and 6 other entry doorknobs with matching Kwikset KW10s. The seller claims that they do not have a copy of the Schlage key to the front door, but gave me one (yes one) for the other 6 Kwiksets.
I am planning to swap out the pins on the kwiksets and will do something with the front door, but am wondering what my options are on that deadbolt. Can I fit a Kwikset 6 pin cylinder in a Schlage deadbolt (I am assuming that I’d need a locksmith to do it because I don’t have the key)? Or, am I going to have to settle for replacing the whole lock with a Kwikset mechanism?
At the very least youll need tools required for keying up a lock. Then youll need knowledge on how to put it back together, assuming you have all the parts. Call a locksmith or replace the lock. If its not easily replaceable like a standard deadbolt, two screws on the back, then call a locksmith.
Yeah unfortunately one of my roommates was activated for National Guard and the other won’t be returning for a while, so I guess I’ll have to go to the locksmith. Luckily there’s a local locksmith right across the street from my current apartment.
But could you elaborate on the part where you said that it wasn’t my key? All of our keys look identical, that being they’re all Kwikset “Do Not Duplicate” keys, but mine is the only one that seems to be “coded” in reverse compared to theirs. We got in with one of the keys last week to go through a checklist of the place and I guess I chose the faulty key. We transferred our internet to this location too and I’m in need to set up the modem so I can take my finals this week haha.
Yeah its a Yale, I’m gonna take a wild guess and say its a wafer lock. which isn’t too unusual but if your in luck it may be one those few unusual ones that has a push in – to open core (rather than turning), which might interest a lock collector or lockpicker to the tune of about £10 in good working order. The company has a great history though, Yale are a sound lock manufacturer and have been for about 180 years. The original Linus Yale perfected his fathers design and patented the first Pin tumbler cylinder lock, the kind we all use to day.