Possible to get a oil rub profile cylinder in kw1 with a thumbturn on it. Its for a hoppe lock system. i feel im going crazy looking for it. i wanna say they currently have the 90 degree one because they have a retaing pin where the thumb turn is. CES is the manufactue but again i cand find kw1



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Is there any company that sells mortise hardware that takes a normal key? Want to keep this door original but also want to key it with the rest of the buildings master key system. : Locksmith


I am a locksmith, i cant find any supplier that carries a modern mortise lock that has a similar look and doesnt still take a skeleton key, just looking for a brand or supplier recommendation. I can also just retrofit a knob and deadbolt to it but i want to keep the original look.



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Trying to figure out what brand/blank this key is. Was thrown on a system I did not design, and I don’t have all that much experience. Appears to be old, which is why I’m trying to replace it. Very worn out. Covered up bitting code : Locksmith


This is not Corbin. 59C2 is a Z class keyway and did not have a cloverleaf bow. Corbin X class had the cloverleaf bow, but they have milled grooves that are equilateral triangles and at least one square. Furthermore, all Corbin X class keys have the tip point in the centre of the blade, not lower like this one.

The closest I can imagine this is to be an antique Yale, but I really doubt it.

EDIT : Can you post a picture of the face of a cylinder. That might help us identify it.



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This apartment rekey on an undocumented master system feels like a trap : Locksmith


I just got a call for an apartment building. they have a tenant that wants her lock changed “Someone keeps breaking in” (yeah my first one of these) asking for more information they have a master system with master, GM and operating keys. They’re on everest, it looks like 7pin the apartments are LFIC except the front outer door. They don’t have any contact for whoever installed it, but they have the M, GM, Control and all the operating keys. . . . I feel like I may have to document their whole system just to change 1 lock. It’ll be a great learning experience, but holy fuck me! 24 apartments and 1 outer door. Do I read all the keys, record into a master sheet, eyeball the lot and guess a new apartment biting and match the master? . . I’m excited for the opportunity, but also curious of their budget for a single apartment rekey. it’s going to take hours to document everything.

The previous maintenance man had some code written down. it’s stamped into the GM key and doesn’t match the bitting. I’m guessing it’s a blind code, or file reference for whoever set it up.

Aaand digging a bit more, it’s a senior living facility. I may just drive out for a consult and get a little better scope of their actual need, maintenance staff and the likes.



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Jobs ticket system? : Locksmith


Hello everyone:

How does everybody here take in-shop jobs in to their shops?

When I first started months ago, our shop just used a sticky note. Literally a little yellow sticky note with the customer’s name and phone number. All the locksmiths would have to either guess at what the job was or call the customer for more info.

I found this inadequate so I made a sort of jobs ticket. Basically it is just a small piece of paper with date, customer info, what the job is, and a quote. This way, anyone could pick up the job and know exactly what needs to be done, whether it is actually do the job or return to the customer with an exact price.

I was looking through some old files and I found what seemed like an invoice pad (carbon copy pad), but for work orders instead. It had all the same info from my tickets, but additionally it had a work completed field, a field for the technicians name/signature, as well as a field for automotive information. It seemed they were all numbered and I could tell that there was a piece that was torn off of each, similar to a dry cleaners number I guess. White, yellow, and pink pages, like a regular invoice pad, if I am remembering correctly.

Does anyone use a system like this? I feel it would mainly help with accountability, you know exactly who did what and when. It could help keep the jobs in order for FIFO processing, it would help keep prices accurate, and ensure that someone didn’t walk off with something that didn’t belong to them. Imagine a customer bringing in an OEM Schlage Grade 1 lever for a rekey. Someone else comes in for pickup on it, pays cash, and walks out with a single piece of hardware worth hundreds of dollars. Eventually that customer who brought it in calls or comes to your shop for pickup and it turns out their lock isn’t there anymore! This system really makes it feel like this sort of thing wouldn’t happen (it hasn’t happened to me, maybe I am just being paranoid about it).

But what to do with the yellow carbon copy? You don’t have to save it like an invoice. I guess you could toss it when done. I imagine the original copy would go with the job, but that doesn’t really make sense to me because if you tear it out and write something on it, it won’t be on the other copies. Maybe I am overthinking this.

Anyways, what is your guys’ process for shop jobs intake?



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